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Tom mention he has moved. He asks about Heron's general progress over the past months. Tom talks about applied Stonian theory and the brutalizing effects of change. They discuss technology perturbing accents. Heron provides an update. No more Talkshoe for Tom but he's still the other when you need more track to set you back. Tom reflects on repressed memories. Heron raises the mystery vortex podcast (Editor's note: this continues to be roughly sixty percent of all Heron's downloads circa March 2012).
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Tom asks about Heron's simplifying life. Tom offers some discussion on dry survivalism. Tom floats the idea of fifteen years ago to towels. They discuss the idea that writing is the degrading present. Heron riffs on the metamorphosis of reality. Tom talks about some new purchases. They digress into the possibility of secondary experiences. Tom returns to the idea that apartment life sucks and a decade and a half of dots. Heron poses the fact that he thought Tom was full of something previously. They explore a mystery under the dryer. Tom asks Heron if there is anything novel going on with his discussions. (Tom misses the date for the start of this podcast it was June 2010.) Tom floats the idea of everyman and it works into some discussion of LM. They conclude with an update on the terror feral feline.
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Tom asks about Heron's health and the learning community project. They discuss internal monologues in simulation. Tom raises the pathology of podcasting that digresses into a discussion of post-apocalyptic education. Tom talks about the movement to extreme militarism and the necessary counter-narrative. Heron and Tom disagree on the positive nature of the Egyptian military. Tom bridges a difficult question of what to do with an old friend with long narration about death. Someone stupid uses the term, self, and the rest writes itself. Heron asks about Tom's listening to Heron's discussions and somehow the discussion of education returns. Tom explains why he can't write a book with Heron.
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Heron starts the discussion talking about music, his health and talking. Tom provides updates on his writing. They talk about the next laptop and views into technology. Tom offers turning down sponsors and space-aged technology. Heron mentions a new group he has joined. They digress to an extended discussion on education. They explore free-wheeling. Tom accidentally raises the topic of marriage. Tom proposes the bleak duality and how to survive a power outage. They conclude with a future topic.
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Heron starts asking about a special day. Tom offers two films for discussion and how Heron can use his knowledge for good. Tom also decompresses his writing for good. They talk about Heron's ever-changing format. Tom links Jeopardy with snuff. The deconstruct some marginal films. Heron returns to Tom's analysis of his other podcast. They conclude with the pathology of it all.
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Heron starts by talking about what is on television. Tom recounts his time in the San Francisco Bay Area and finally launching the 1993 writing, Field of Chaos. Tom explains to Heron discovering listeners in real-time and more on his Bay Area trip. They explore the Social Network. Tom asks about the changes in Heron's discussion. Tom asks about Heron's changes in thinking on his future work. They talk about a mutual intensity and sleep. Oh and fieldofchaos.com, that's fieldofchaos.com...
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Tom starts talking about a telephone survey and using the internet to deal with telephone harassment. Heron offers an idea for the children of the future. Tom talks about double speed listening and simulating sub-language apes. They explore a greater gather of lunatics thanks to Stone Ape. Tom talks about being comfortable not talking and understanding women. They explore Asperger reality. (Tom misspeaks the sophists overlap Plato). Advertising damaging television springs up as a topic. Tom digresses into his writing. Heron asks about the artificial life community. Heron reminds himself about a childhood of model railroading disappointment. (Tom also misspeaks about Big Al Mayo's location - he's in CT, not sure where the NJ reference came from.) Tom offers a description of fear, Romania, Iran and Cuba. Heron offers a film for Tom. Tom offers a location for Heron. Heron concludes the show with a little telephone humor.
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Tom starts with an apology and disappointment with a film director conversation. They discuss anime and cultural anomalies. Tom offers a nerd impersonation and a concern relating to his lowering intelligence. Tom identifies the sublanguage human and that Heron has romantic assumptions about humanity through his utopian life. Tom thinks Heron should explore the US via train. They talk about speech therapy, topics leading to violence and a return to wise dogs. Heron raises his fear of spiders and it digresses into a general discussion on insects. Tom asks why Heron is becoming more popular and they talk about discovering a legacy.
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Tom starts the show talking about Chris Abbott and Gerald de Jong. They explore mixed feelings of Las Vegas. Tom raises the fact that Heron is instigating terror with his questions of language. Tom offers the postal service is a tool for evil. They discuss books and reading styles. Tom talks about the mujahideen and death in public. Tom discusses future destinations. Heron clarifies some marital details. They discuss the Zeitgeist movement and Peter Joseph. They discuss the open line versus the controlled line. Tom explains his experience of the perfect game. Heron launches a discussion on R. Crumb and the sixties. They talk about the Vietnam War and helicopters. Heron asks about the floods in Australia then the conversation moves to earthquakes. The recording concludes with Fien and Mitch's rendition of Black Hole Sun.
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Heron starts by asking about Tom's audio setup and then they talk about the name of the podcast. Tom raises a listener topic on fate, digresses into his formal studies and their experiences of academics. Tom talks about his past few weeks in the context of fate, hands and wise dogs. They talk about Heron's recollection of conversations. They talk about Homeland Security and how to change people's minds. Tom asks if Heron is important in his view of the future. Tom offers a piano interlude and returns to a discussion of his 1993 writing and transposing a location. They discuss rebooting reality through illness. Tom explains the problems of recording through December, decompressing death and his brother's visit to the US. Heron concludes with some discussion of TeamSpeak.
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Heron starts talking about Facebook ads. Tom floats the new name for the podcast. They discuss pharmacology versus psychology. Tom raises the phylum of the monkey Heron observes. They talk about who should be allowed to self-publish, power structures and sexuality. Tom confirms he's okay to die now. They discuss meeting listeners. Tom is thankful he isn't an academic. Heron asks why things Tom produces are now moving from just being free. Tom talks about one of his heroes, William Gaines, publisher of Mad magazine and the absence of contemporary war comics and toys. They discuss the Bonobo Future comic/movie and move on to some discussion on WikiLeaks.
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Heron starts the conversation talking about gratitude and combination locks. Heron sets an assignment for the listeners. Tom talks about a particular way of learning stuff and the ongoing Stone Ape Facebook campaign versus the Model Rail Radio revolution. Heron wants to change the name of the podcast and Tom wants the listeners to decide on the new name. They discuss the Joneses and the hyper-consumerist festival. Tom talks about a literary form he is trying to explore and mental health. Tom offers some discussion of personal freedom, strange 1993 connections and authenticity. Heron raises Stephen Hawking. Tom reflects on his blog and his time in the UK. Heron reads a quote and talks about quote collection. Tom talks about forced writing and forced editing.
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Tom starts with a couple of updates on the breakdown of self-publishing and Facebook ads. They discuss the next thirty to fifty years. Tom raises the issue of discomfort and change. Heron wanders into some very un-politically correct British humor and talks about his ideas becoming invitations. They discuss Stone Ape's self identity in a Facebook ad. They discuss the valuable documents. Tom offers the idea that repressive culture can be measured and how to solve the problems with Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Heron kicks off the discussion talking about being a schmuck in society. Tom re-acquaints himself with Heron's hero and explores the Eastern tradition. Heron talks about the need for a champion for his projects. Tom asks about Heron's annual desert trip for the real new year and talks about the ad campaign for this very podcast. They explore the previous show and, perhaps, the end of language monkey analysis. Tom talks about being a post-singular entity and publishing everything to get it out to the literati. The talking ends abruptly due to Tom's pending headache.
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Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, Jonathan Reinhart, host of the CWF GameCast. They discuss their introductions to wargaming. Tom asks about the history of the CWF Forums. (Jonathan's rabbits make a guest appearance with their water bottle and food plate through the early part of the recording.) Tom asks about Flames of War (and defines Flames of War through the discussion). Jonathan makes a major announcement about his blog and hopefully future directions in podcasting. Tom explains some of the behind the scenes with his podcasts. Tom asks Jonathan about running for office and local politics on an international level. They talk about married life. Jonathan asks two questions about wargaming and gaming probability.
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Heron starts talking about appealing to spiritual teachers and spam. Heron protests the use of the term Heronisms. (Tom's audio is patchy.) Tom raises the idea of not speaking French with a French accent. Tom continues to talk about assembling most of the email he sent in 2000 for a book project. They continue the exploration of Heron's definition of marriage. Tom digresses briefly about his disturbing time living on campus. Heron sneaks in some language monkey discussion. Tom raises the topic of Heron's son. They explore the idea of the writing that may or may not be Heron's. Tom offers a brief discussion on modern medicine versus futurist medicine.
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Heron starts with falling down by choice and asks about Tom's view of the future. Tom explains the Australian brain drain. Heron discovers Tolkien. Tom introduces the first question from a listener on McKenna. Tom discusses the death of NPR. Heron raises Facebook news feeds and Tom provides some humorous examples. Tom begins an exploration of destroying pianos. (Tom's Rich, Lipp and Sohn was from the 1830s.) Heron raises the worst thing he ever did and concludes with the ongoing exploration of marriage.
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Heron and Tom start talking about work and being worked to death. Tom offers the KMO chat as a point of discussion. Tom floats his interest in backwards music. Heron raises the unscripted topic of sleep. Tom explores technologies of all ages. Heron digresses to Heronisms in disgust. Tom raises Heron's keyboard - a topic Heron loves to talk about! Tom asks about the loss of a stupidity. They return to the keyboard and playing music at parties. They agree that scars are superior to tattoos.
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Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, KMO (or Kevin O'Connor as he is known to his friends on Facebook), host of the C-Realm podcast. Tom kicks off talking about 9/11. (Tom's example of the Genting Highlands collapse was not due to fire.) Tom ask about Kevin's experience with the Couch Surfing Touring. Kevin notes that a physical community is still superior to a virtual community. Kevin talks about the origin of KMO. They discuss Kevin's possible embodiment of Douglas Rushkoff's philosophies in Life Inc. Tom asks about Kevin's current life and the skills that are needed to survive. The conversation then moves to Kevin/KMO's new book, Conversations on Collapse: C-Realm Podcast Transcripts. Tom offers a discussion about publishing and then models of podcasting. Kevin offers zombie movies as a topic of discussion. They explore films you like as a reflection of your own psychological perspective.
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Heron and Tom start talking about health and airborne disease transmissions. Tom discusses airline subsidies versus actual holidays. Tom asks Heron how he will attract the thinkers. Tom continues talking about DJing and dancing. Heron describes COTO. Tom explores the Quaker origins of salons. They both discuss where in the world to live - a recurring problem. Heron mentions he has watched Wonderland. They talk about the many Larry Yaegers of the US. Tom deconstructs California all-over. They explore Heron's continuing online project. Tom points out that Microsoft Word is following Heron's hatred of passive language and that Heron is a light editor. Tom offers the idea that the language machine is Heron's deity. They discuss the idea of comfort. Heron concludes the show with some concern that the stories will eventually run out.
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The initial greeting audio was cut. Heron starts the discussion talking about his change in lifestyle based on external demands. They talk about communes for the wealthy. Heron raises the ongoing language monkey project. Tom recounts a birthday party in a sports bar and finding the wealthy. Heron explains his thoughts on migrating information to the web. Tom offers the idea of re-reading a book to get a completely new book. They expand into a series of film reviews. Tom raises his recent conversation with Traci Portillo. They conclude exploring the format of the show.
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Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, Traci Portillo. They continue to discuss the International Game Developers' Association and role playing games (computer and other). Tom offers an introduction to Traci's interest in cosplay and dressing up. Traci explains her making of costumes. They both talk about Christmas and Thanksgiving. Tom begins a long discussion on the OCD Project and the idea of explicit versus implicit scripting. They conclude discussing ventriloquism.
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Tom introduces the idea of the mirror through the film Shine or at least Tom's connection to the film. Heron raises the distinction between British aristocracy and trailer trash. Tom talks about doing humor in a serious fashion. Heron thinks Tom is not quite finished. Tom complains about forced writing. Heron asks about blogging. (Tom misspeaks Douglas Rushkoff's comic was mid-2000s.) Tom offers some discussion about Facebook as a tool for creating social movements and Fred Hampton. They both explore Burning Man and the Trialogues. Tom asks where is Bertrand today? Heron thinks banal is the answer.
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Heron starts the show talking about short hair. Tom asks about Heron's experience of the 1980s. Heron talks about community radio and Roy of Hollywood. In terms of a history of Silicon Valley, Fire in the Valley is the book to start with according to Tom. Heron is bored with nationalism and his parents. Tom offers the idea that we are entering a new dark ages and that Heron should explore multimedia. They discuss the iPad versus the people. Tom offers some discussion of museums and World War 2. (Incidentally 60 million people died in World War 2.) Heron reiterates his battle cry on followers and Tom discusses some future possible guests.
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Heron starts by talking about his lazy experiences of Vietnam and compares family experiences with Tom. They both explore the idea of high school defining the antithesis of reality. Tom offers the War on Greed as a War on he can get behind. Tom continues exploring tax value-for-money. The conversation returns to the idea of success from high school. They continue to explore the idea of desert people of Southern California. Tom explores a memory from early childhood with a Piscine number plate on the road and how a dead cat can have different points of origin. The idea of audio saturation leads into the concept of avatars in the real world. Tom provides a critique of the modern artificial life community. Tom misspeaks Chris Langton came up with the definition in the late 1980s (not 1990s). Tom confesses the best thing he ever experienced in the UK was a nerd-fest. Heron and Tom discuss small luxuries. They conclude with the YouTube form and too many cats.
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Heron raises the idea of the machine versus the computer. Tom explores pedantry and pharmacology versus psychology. The conversation then move into the perspective of history and possibly understanding of history. Heron raises the hope in solar. They discuss suicide and moving. Heron talks about travel. Tom discusses publishing, information and hobbies. They conclude with an overview on Tom's writing.
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Download numbers start the topics closely followed by the general format of the show going on. Tom volunteers his thoughts about personal productivity and the failure of the TED conferences. Tom then moves the discussion onto Google blocking sites (including his own) and the neutering of the discourse on net neutrality. Heron starts the main topic for the discussion on survival. This is shortly circumvented by Tom discussing assumptions of a high level of interest, Heron's views on marriage and monastic pursuits, a G-rated history versus reality. The conversation concludes with a long discussion of how to survive the potential social collapse.
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Heron starts the conversation talking about dreaming and inspiration. Tom offers the idea that Terence McKenna can teach you a lot about constructive dreaming. The conversation moves to Paux (Northern) California versus global thinking and the US versus the UK. Heron's offers a connected dream with death and Tom volunteers a comparable story. Tom offers his theory about WikiLeaks via Chechnya and then moves to the archetypal paradox of the smartest person in the room. The conversation shifts to the overwhelming nature of Facebook lurkers. Tom ask Heron about his early life and his all boys Catholic high school education and when Heron became Heron.
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Tom starts the show by talking about anonymity and stalkers. Heron asks how many people came to listen to Tom in the Bay Area. They both explore the ideas of language and the (potential of the) self. The conversation moves on to dreaming and language. Tom concludes with questions on snapping a narrative.
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Tom starts the show by talking about the way information is framed is as important as the information itself in may cases. Heron continues with his experience of computer history in 1983. Tom talks about how well old computers simulate and his general background in computing. The conversation moves on to the idea that youth is dangerous and a wandering history of Noble Ape. They return to the idea of framing information and Noble Apes speaking. Heron offers the idea of the language of wasps and the self as muscle tension. Tom describes his basis in comedy. Heron outlines his means of reclaiming the calendar. Tom reflects on the Fuller-followers, the Monkey King and the toxicity of an environment. The recording concludes with the format of the show.
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Heron starts the discussion on teaching and understanding language. The conversation continues into Heron's experiences in Vietnam and Tom's experiences in Malaysia. This conversation moves back into a discussion of language onto marriage and sex. Tom introduces the idea of the narrative engine and expands on the view of prison as a continuation of education. Heron outlines why he isn't a human and how he has never known a wise dog. The conversation wanders into the idea of futurism and the futurist. Tom continues with the discussion of school, prison and voting with a slightly Australian twist. Tom critiques the introduction to Heron's language hypothesis onto podcasts as chat-lines. The conversation concludes on how Heron needs a fan-generated Wikipedia entry and the Trialogues.
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Tom kicks off the discussion about online identities and Heron's thoughts on creating an online identity and the distinctions between squish and the matrix. They move on to discuss voting and the decriminalization of drugs. The manipulation of language for political means is explored and some discussion of the future of Earth. Tom begins a discussion on the importance of the connection to the internet as being part of the matrix, piano tuning and the riots of southern California vs distinctions in Australia. Heron talks about his son, genetics, adoption and Terence McKenna. Tom expands on the ideas of community in a virtual and physical sense. They conclude on the idea of the monologue as the podcast and the fundamental change in the planet.
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Tom Barbalet introduces himself to Heron Stone and offers a Noble Ape 101 on his work. Tom discusses the information dark age that we appear to be entering. Heron and Tom then riff on the power of podcasts as a means of communication. Heron proposes the format of future shows. The audio quality is particularly poor in this pilot. Future shows have been recorded directly via Skype.
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